Posts by Muddy Waters

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Your favourite WTS publication?

by LoveUniHateExams in

i realise that starting this thread may make me as popular as a ginger stepchild but was there any wts publication that you liked, or at least comfortably tolerated?.

my memory may be deceiving me but i think the greatest man book was pretty good, leaving out the gruesome detail of the crucifixtion and wts doctrine.. also, can anyone tell me the list of books that ray franz authored/co-authored?.

thanks.

Muddy Waters

I really liked "Choosing the Best Way of Life" and an older book called, "What Has Religion Done for Mankind?" At the time I loved to hear other religions slammed. I guess it "upbuilt" me. *insert hysterical/insane laughter*

Nowadays I like anything with lots of pictures in them. Those WT artists! How scarifying! How many scenes of death and destruction can they depict? How many faces can they paint into a dress (or tree or hand, etc.) ! How many bowls of fruit can they place on top of heads and tables? How many wheelbarrows might there be in paradise? How many scenes of grimacing people (for whatever reason) ? It is all so fascinating now, lol. I guess WT / JWorg is heading in the right direction with all the visuals and large white margins. But the art now is disappointingly water-colored and faded, no more (or not many) Bambi/Disney style artists.

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Just finished Crisis of Conscience, now for Combating Cult Mind Control

by Blackfalcon98 in

ray franz is really encouraging, and his experience really proves how destructive the borg.

just got my hands on combating cult mind control....i gotta admit: its not an easy read like cofc.

i intend to finish, anyone here who has read the book?

Muddy Waters

Flipper, thank you so much for your endorsements of Hassan's books. I have only read the first one, CCMC, but I still feel so messed up some days. It would be good to recognize the methods of high control groups/cults and understand them better. I also want to better recognize logical fallacies and to sharpen my critical thinking skills, which have lain dormant for so long.

It is also for those reasons above that I enjoy PunkOfNice's comments so much, he often breaks down the flawed statements of the WTS and describes the logical fallacies and tactics used. -- aside -- PunkOfNice, if you are reading this, THANK YOU for doing that! It helps me very much.

Thank *all* of you so much! :)

- Muddy gal

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JEHOVAH consents to sit down with a reporter for a one on one INTERVIEW!

by Terry in

r: thank you for agreeing to this interview.

how should i address you?

if you are a good god, why wouldn't you want to stop the evil?.

Muddy Waters

Wow. That was really quite profound. Enjoyed that very much.

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Leaving Me Behind for Your New World

by compound complex in

jw
friends

once i loved the sound of your voice, butyour words have become meaningless.

as you venture into a state that leaves me,your companion, at a loss as to what to.

think, to do, if ever again i should link myheart and soul and body to one like you.. your honey words no longer melt in my earsthough, surely, they become fainter as you.

Muddy Waters

Beautiful. Painful. Expresses the terrible, unbridgable gap.... :(

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why didnt God just do this?

by sowhatnow in

for one thing, i cant get past genesis, but no matter.. when god told adam and eve if you eat from the tree youll die.

so why did he not simple let them die and not allow the offspring to?.

you see, if i was a god, and i told two people that, id let them die , .

Muddy Waters

EndOfMysteries, I loved your post! Very cool. "He is becoming atmosphere, he is becoming morning, etc."

although I don't have a belief in anything right now, it is so neat to entertain new & different thoughts and ideas!

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"Big Eyes" the story of artist Margaret Keane

by designs in

the tim burton film is ready for release.. www.thewrap.com/big-eyes-premiere-finds-audience-howling-at-christoph-waltz-and-amy-adams-dueling-artists/.

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Muddy Waters

Was she a JW..?

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"It's the intent that counts and not the result."

by donny in

"it's the intent that counts not the result.".

i have been out of the jw organization for some 22 years now and i sometimes get a reminding jolt out the hoops that some will jump through to make their religion make sense to them.

the first line in this post is what a jw on the street here in salinas told me on saturday when trying to justify the society's history of false prophecies.

Muddy Waters

Punk of nice, I am still learning how to think critically. could you explain your post and how the hi lighted part is a logical fallacy....?

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Anthony Morris The Third

by Yondaime in

when i am3 was going to speak i was ecstatic to hear this lunatic embarass himself.

after the propaganda indoctrination session, a relative asked me what my spiritual goals were, i told em i want to become a servant before i turn 23 so i could get laid.

lmfao.

Muddy Waters

omg. Colored socks. I remember when colored *shirts* was a big, confusing and potentially stumbling ordeal for brothers.

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So if "parents are to blame for children leaving the truth", then STEP DOWN GB!

by stuckinarut2 in

if to mo's comments in the talk re "parents are to blame for children not being in the truth etc", (and yes, as many have already very nicely pointed out that this must therefore imply that "jehovah is to blame for satan and the angels rebelling"), doesn't this mean then that members of the gb need to step down?.

haven't some of the gb got family that are not "in the truth"?.

hypocrites yet again!.

Muddy Waters

Yes, good point! And what about dear, faithful, zealous Brother RUTHERFORD! I mean, HE was the one whom Jesus inspected and declared to be the very first, real, FDS! Poor Russell was only a runner-up, despite his founding the whole thing.

But oop, wait a moment here... Didn't Rutherford's one and only son leave the religion and then refuse to have anything more to do with his father, not even attending his funeral? Such a bad, very bad son. But no matter. Jesus evidently saw from his heavenly vantage, something very special in Rutherford and thus declared him the FDS (Which we've only recently realized, close to 100 years later, thanks to the FDS and their superior spiritual understanding and enlightenment.)

And then there is Jehovah. Poor Jehovah, with a whole 1/3 of his sons leaving and abandoning him, to become the horribly wicked and terrible demons (much like us apostates, I suppose...). Well. Thanks to the FDS, we now know it was Jehovah's fault somehow that his sons didn't remain faithful and loyal to him.

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HOW MANY drones allowed round an apathy trolley?

by hamsterbait in

i saw seven the other day - the girls on one side the men on the other.

a couple fo them were drinking their starbucks.. so for every hour, 7 of "preaching" can be counted.

truly jehoobie is expanding the work in this final part of the time of the end!!.

Muddy Waters

Lugubrious!! I remember that word! It was in a WT magazine, in a study article from the 1990's. The WT was talking about people in the world who mourn without hope, and how JWs, in comparison, do not mourn in the same extreme, lugubrious manner!